20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 27 Nov 2009 (By Number of Wins)

1 SURF LORIAN
14579 -2087-1999-2044 14.31%
2 BOND
14051 -2055-1819-1869 14.62%
3 COLLISION
11068 -1884-1560-1485 17.02%
4 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
13543 -1873-1830-1837 13.83%
5 BIG DADDY COOL
10774 -1766-1492-1468 16.39%
6 ELITE STATE
10992 -1644-1688-1520 14.95%
7 PURE OCTANE
9778 -1432-1443-1347 14.64%
8 PRIMO UNO
9437 -1377-1393-1277 14.59%
9 WHERES PEDRO
8124 -1339-1113-1054 16.48%
10 HALLUCINATE
9502 -1271-1235-1204 13.37%
11 GO WILD TEDDY
7230 -949-943-970 13.12%
12 BLACK ENFORCER
5935 -911-897-793 15.34%
13 WHISKY ASSASSIN
5350 -801-792-770 14.97%
14 BRETT LEE
4615 -786-640-596 17.03%
15 MOST AWESOME
5533 -584-665-754 10.55%
16 OVER FLO
3570 -547-506-498 15.32%
17 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
3461 -477-458-455 13.78%
18 PREMIER FANTASY
2494 -453-406-362 18.16%
19 ELGRANDO
3508 -395-418-448 11.25%
20 CARNAGE
3166 -391-390-406 12.34%

20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 04 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins)

1 SURF LORIAN
14985 -2152-2065-2109 14.36%
2 BOND
14330 -2092-1858-1895 14.59%
3 COLLISION
11284 -1927-1591-1506 17.07%
4 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
13868 -1922-1877-1886 13.85%
5 BIG DADDY COOL
11001 -1791-1528-1501 16.28%
6 ELITE STATE
11200 -1667-1722-1548 14.88%
7 PURE OCTANE
10023 -1476-1485-1374 14.72%
8 PRIMO UNO
9659 -1411-1429-1306 14.06%
9 WHERES PEDRO
8363 -1370-1145-1084 16.38%
10 HALLUCINATE
9688 -1297-1249-1226 13.38%
11 GO WILD TEDDY
7360 -964-957-994 13.09%
12 BLACK ENFORCER
6105 -934-924-809 15.29%
13 WHISKY ASSASSIN
5454 -824-807-783 15.01%
14 BRETT LEE
4691 -794-649-599 16.92%
15 MOST AWESOME
5617 -593-678-766 10.55%
16 OVER FLO
3640 -555-510-509 15.24%
17 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
3507 -484-465-462 13.08%
18 PREMIER FANTASY
2549 -459-413-372 18.00%
19 ELGRANDO
3568 -399-423-456 11.18%
20 CARNAGE
3212 -396-392-410 12.32%

20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 14 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins)

1 SURF LORIAN
15582 -2250-2144-2188 14.43%
2 BOND
14819 -2164-1936-1951 14.06%
3 COLLISION
11604 -1981-1627-1558 17.07%
4 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
14309 -1974-1943-1929 13.79%
5 BIG DADDY COOL
11326 -1828-1570-1554 16.13%
6 ELITE STATE
11521 -1721-1772-1595 14.93%
7 PURE OCTANE
10398 -1537-1532-1431 14.78%
8 PRIMO UNO
9962 -1451-1479-1341 14.56%
9 WHERES PEDRO
8679 -1415-1185-1122 16.03%
10 HALLUCINATE
9955 -1330-1279-1262 13.36%
11 GO WILD TEDDY
7579 -993-980-1040 13.01%
12 BLACK ENFORCER
6345 -965-959-845 15.02%
13 WHISKY ASSASSIN
5628 -848-830-801 15.06%
14 BRETT LEE
4794 -817-666-612 17.04%
15 MOST AWESOME
5727 -598-696-783 10.44%
16 OVER FLO
3759 -574-524-521 15.27%
17 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
3577 -494-470-469 13.81%
18 PREMIER FANTASY
2621 -476-424-378 18.16%
19 ELGRANDO
3670 -407-437-472 11.08%
20 CARNAGE
3292 -401-403-419 12.18%

If you extrapolate from what has happened over the last 6 months or more, Surf Lorian is going to be well clear on the Sires' List by mid 2010. However, even if this proves to be the case I find it difficult to get excited about him. From my perspective, there is no stand-out sire, there are several who are "much of a muchness". The stand-out sires are of course few and far between. I continue to be impressed, however, by the achievements of Collision. It seems to me that he has always been the quiet achiever. If I did want another share in a pup, a Collision pup with a good dam line would interest me. I know that Nick has some interest in Collision stock, what do other members think, what are your experiences or at least observations. Naturally there are going to be a lot of bad Collisions going around or probably more pertinent, not going around, in fact, not around at all, however, that goes for any sire. The would have been plenty of bad Temlee's for example.

20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 23 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins)

1 SURF LORIAN
16148 -2337-2228-2267 14.47%
2 BOND
15206 -2214-1987-2005 14.56%
3 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
14726 -2045-2008-1989 13.88%
4 COLLISION
11877 -2016-1661-1605 16.97%
5 BIG DADDY COOL
11658 -1880-1613-1597 16.12%
6 ELITE STATE
11830 -1777-1811-1646 15.02%
7 PURE OCTANE
10776 -1589-1580-1486 14.74%
8 PRIMO UNO
10220 -1489-1510-1372 14.56%
9 WHERES PEDRO
9000 -1466-1235-1155 16.28%
10 HALLUCINATE
10180 -1358-1310-1294 13.33%
11 GO WILD TEDDY
7749 -1014-1001-1064 13.08%
12 BLACK ENFORCER
6544 -997-985-875 15.23%
13 WHISKY ASSASSIN
5773 -867-856-818 15.01%
14 BRETT LEE
4876 -834-679-622 17.01%
15 MOST AWESOME
5837 -605-712-792 10.36%
16 OVER FLO
3863 -586-535-537 15.16%
17 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
3643 -506-476-479 13.88%
18 PREMIER FANTASY
2686 -487-437-387 18.13%
19 ELGRANDO
3758 -420-443-487 11.17%
20 CARNAGE
3341 -408-414-426 12.21%

20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 29 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins)

1 SURF LORIAN
16429 -2382-2269-2316 14.49%
2 BOND
15402 -2239-2013-2025 14.53%
3 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
14965 -2077-2039-2021 13.87%
4 COLLISION
12024 -2040-1675-1622 16.96%
5 BIG DADDY COOL
11820 -1908-1630-1621 16.14%
6 ELITE STATE
11973 -1791-1832-1665 14.95%
7 PURE OCTANE
10956 -1614-1608-1504 14.73%
8 PRIMO UNO
10354 -1508-1535-1388 14.56%
9 WHERES PEDRO
9155 -1488-1252-1175 16.25%
10 HALLUCINATE
10297 -1367-1328-1308 13.27%
11 GO WILD TEDDY
7821 -1020-1009-1076 13.04%
12 BLACK ENFORCER
6628 -1007-996-885 15.19%
13 WHISKY ASSASSIN
5844 -874-864-828 14.95%
14 BRETT LEE
4932 -847-689-625 17.17%
15 MOST AWESOME
5887 -610-722-802 10.36%
16 OVER FLO
3914 -595-545-547 15.02%
17 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
3679 -511-480-481 13.88%
18 PREMIER FANTASY
2718 -492-445-392 18.01%
19 ELGRANDO
3803 -426-448-494 11.02%
20 CARNAGE
3358 -409-417-428 12.17%

20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 31 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks = Australia Wide

1 SURF LORIAN
16547 -2404-2288-2325 14.52%
2 BOND
15472 -2252-2023-2032 14.55%
3 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
15057 -2095-2046-2034 13.91%
4 COLLISION
12080 -2046-1678-1629 16.93%
5 BIG DADDY COOL
11891 -1917-1641-1628 16.12%
6 ELITE STATE
12032 -1799-1836-1683 14.95%
7 PURE OCTANE
11039 -1625-1623-1518 14.72%
8 PRIMO UNO
10403 -1518-1542-1393 14.59%
9 WHERES PEDRO
9239 -1506-1262-1192 16.03%
10 HALLUCINATE
10344 -1375-1330-1313 13.29%
11 GO WILD TEDDY
7865 -1026-1017-1080 13.04%
12 BLACK ENFORCER
6677 -1009-1004-891 15.11%
13 WHISKY ASSASSIN
5890 -881-875-831 14.95%
14 BRETT LEE
4954 -850-692-629 17.15%
15 MOST AWESOME
5902 -612-723-807 10.36%
16 OVER FLO
3924 -595-547-550 15.16%
17 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
3689 -512-481-482 13.87%
18 PREMIER FANTASY
2727 -493-448-395 18.07%
19 ELGRANDO
3823 -426-452-497 11.14%
20 CARNAGE
3372 -410-418-433 12.15%


20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 29 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks =NEW SOUTH WALES

1 BOND
7652 -1155-1021-1012 15.09%
2 COLLISION
5801 -1059-800-785 18.25%
3 SURF LORIAN
5692 -839-825-821 14.73%
4 ELITE STATE
5126 -818-805-740 15.95%
5 BIG DADDY COOL
3563 -617-519-518 17.31%
6 HALLUCINATE
4122 -575-556-535 13.94%
7 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
3749 -573-525-532 15.28%
8 GO WILD TEDDY
3671 -482-485-479 13.12%
9 OVER FLO
2954 -450-397-421 15.23%
10 PRIMO UNO
2210 -385-356-291 17.42%
11 BRETT LEE
2082 -377-288-286 18.01%
12 MOST AWESOME
3369 -354-397-461 10.05%
13 PURE OCTANE
2210 -352-333-320 15.92%
14 BLACK ENFORCER
2170 -320-313-298 14.74%
15 WHISKY ASSASSIN
2188 -311-331-304 14.21%
16 CARNAGE
1950 -230-236-249 11.79%
17 PREMIER FANTASY
1048 -205-172-148 19.56%
18 EIFFELLA
1825 -203-265-246 11.12%
19 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
1663 -198-223-231 11.09%
20 HISTORY LESSON
1772 -196-221-252 11.06%


20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 29 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks =VICTORIA

1 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
5382 -706-713-693 13.11%
2 PURE OCTANE
4969 -700-701-686 14.08%
3 PRIMO UNO
5010 -662-717-692 13.21%
4 WHERES PEDRO
3999 -570-500-505 14.25%
5 BIG DADDY COOL
2822 -440-354-381 15.59%
6 ELITE STATE
3181 -436-448-440 13.07%
7 SURF LORIAN
2911 -432-388-414 14.84%
8 BOND
2779 -388-358-356 13.96%
9 HALLUCINATE
1871 -246-247-247 13.14%
10 COLLISION
1464 -246-214-182 16.08%
11 ELGRANDO
2172 -244-269-272 11.23%
12 BRETT LEE
1294 -225-210-147 17.38%
13 WHISKY ASSASSIN
1287 -203-179-166 15.77%
14 NOVEMBER FURY
1236 -149-161-156 12.05%
15 GO WILD TEDDY
1193 -149-113-150 12.48%
16 TYPHOON TIDE
1317 -131-154-147 9.94%
17 PREMIER FANTASY
751 -125-124-117 16.64%
18 HOTLINE HERO
1119 -121-122-139 10.81%
19 BLACK ENFORCER
665 -120-85-85 18.04%
20 EXCEPTIONAL
1014 -112-136-128 11.04%


20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 31 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks =QUEENSLAND

1 SURF LORIAN
4621 -676-640-647 14.62%
2 BLACK ENFORCER
2970 -464-494-412 15.62%
3 COLLISION
2746 -436-401-383 15.87%
4 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
1562 -259-246-213 16.58%
5 ELITE STATE
1494 -229-231-218 15.32%
6 GO WILD TEDDY
1684 -218-248-251 12.94%
7 WHISKY ASSASSIN
1214 -209-183-188 17.21%
8 WHERES PEDRO
1057 -206-158-126 19.48%
9 BOND
1501 -200-200-190 13.32%
10 HALLUCINATE
1434 -196-184-192 13.66%
11 BIG DADDY COOL
891 -150-121-100 16.83%
12 PURE OCTANE
1174 -145-160-149 12.35%
13 PRIMO UNO
795 -142-130-109 17.86%
14 LINDALE BLUE
1036 -123-109-122 11.87%
15 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
456 -85-50-68 18.64%
16 BRETT LEE
447 -75-46-58 16.77%
17 KIOWA SWEET TREY
427 -68-62-64 15.92%
18 NOVEMBER FURY
463 -64-66-80 13.82%
19 TOKEN PRINCE
516 -63-57-72 12.02%
20 JUST THE BEST
433 -61-57-61 14.08%


20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 31 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks =WESTERN AUSTRALIA

1 BIG DADDY COOL
828 -126-89-116 15.21%
2 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
981 -113-129-139 11.51%
3 SURF LORIAN
871 -111-90-105 12.74%
4 PRIMO UNO
485 -87-83-57 17.93%
5 PURE OCTANE
393 -69-69-50 17.55%
6 BOND
442 -64-48-66 14.47%
7 HALLUCINATE
572 -61-84-64 10.66%
8 WHERES PEDRO
414 -54-47-55 13.04%
9 COLLISION
314 -47-53-49 14.96%
10 BRETT LEE
258 -47-31-31 18.21%
11 MOST AWESOME
409 -45-66-64 11.00%
12 HISTORY LESSON
228 -35-34-31 15.35%
13 ELITE STATE
274 -34-35-29 12.04%
14 FLYING PENSKE
282 -33-46-38 11.07%
15 WHISKY ASSASSIN
223 -32-31-31 14.34%
16 PREMIER FANTASY
141 -32-20-16 22.69%
17 TOKEN PRINCE
202 -28-22-21 13.86%
18 CARNAGE
192 -27-34-24 14.06%
19 SPIRAL NIKITA
289 -26-36-42 8.99%
20 STATELY BIRD
125 -23-18-12 18.04%


20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 29 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks =SOUTH AUSTRALIA

1 BIG DADDY COOL
2028 -322-291-262 15.87%
2 SURF LORIAN
1133 -174-174-179 15.35%
3 PURE OCTANE
920 -160-130-124 17.39%
4 BOND
1189 -148-139-171 12.44%
5 WHERES PEDRO
886 -137-132-106 15.46%
6 ELITE STATE
675 -106-111-75 15.07%
7 KIOWA SWEET TREY
580 -105-75-73 18.01%
8 PRIMO UNO
782 -102-85-100 13.04%
9 HALLUCINATE
746 -101-87-84 13.53%
10 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
830 -93-120-103 11.02%
11 COLLISION
593 -84-83-83 14.16%
12 ELGRANDO
553 -74-73-87 13.38%
13 GO WILD TEDDY
466 -73-54-85 15.66%
14 MOST AWESOME
611 -63-72-83 10.31%
15 COLLIDE
433 -57-56-60 13.16%
16 TEXAS GOLD
377 -55-65-57 14.58%
17 CARNAGE
411 -49-44-49 11.92%
18 DIGITAL
220 -44-43-35 20.00%
19 BITTA AWESOME
181 -38-29-20 20.99%
20 WHISKY ASSASSIN
329 -37-44-47 11.24%


20 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 31 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks =TASMANIA

1 WHERES PEDRO
1165 -225-174-153 19.31%
2 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
1254 -150-143-181 11.96%
3 BOND
893 -147-124-117 16.46%
4 BIG DADDY COOL
723 -101-103-107 13.96%
5 PURE OCTANE
625 -85-111-71 13.06%
6 COLLIDE
319 -75-45-46 23.51%
7 PRIMO UNO
530 -53-73-64 10.00%
8 ELITE STATE
388 -48-68-49 12.37%
9 SURF LORIAN
337 -38-49-42 11.27%
10 WHISKY ASSASSIN
201 -36-34-25 17.91%
11 HALLUCINATE
337 -35-28-34 10.38%
12 COLLISION
170 -33-21-20 19.41%
13 TRENDY LEIGH
175 -32-23-29 18.28%
14 BLACK CALEB
323 -30-38-52 9.28%
15 BRETT LEE
201 -28-31-25 13.93%
16 PREMIER FANTASY
151 -25-22-16 16.55%
17 TOKEN PRINCE
139 -23-23-19 16.54%
18 LATE LATE SHOW
182 -18-17-40 9.89%
19 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
57 -16-13-4 28.07%
20 DROOPYS MARCO
67 -15-10-10 22.38%


10 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 29 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks =ACT

1 BOND
251 -57-34-23 22.07%
2 COLLISION
289 -51-31-37 17.64%
3 BIG DADDY COOL
139 -29-25-20 20.86%
4 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
174 -28-31-20 16.09%
5 OVER FLO
113 -25-21-16 22.12%
6 PURE OCTANE
167 -24-26-32 14.37%
7 HALLUCINATE
125 -21-15-22 16.08%
8 ELITE STATE
111 -16-18-23 14.41%
9 WHERES PEDRO
84 -12-14-12 14.28%
10 HISTORY LESSON
72 -12-12-7 16.66%


10 Leading Sires for 2009 as at 29 Dec 2009 (By Number of Wins) Tracks =NORTHERN TERRITORY

1 TYPHOON TIDE
174 -39-20-24 22.41%
2 SOLVE THE PUZZLE
177 -35-29-30 19.77%
3 WHERES PEDRO
97 -31-13-11 31.95%
4 ADDIS BOY
132 -23-33-26 17.42%
5 PRIMO UNO
79 -18-12-13 22.78%
6 TEN MEN
35 -14-5-3 40.00%
7 GO WILD TEDDY
126 -13-17-21 10.31%
8 COLLISION
99 -12-20-15 12.12%
9 LONESOME JED
80 -12-14-14 15.00%
10 PURE OCTANE
142 -8-19-27 5.63%

20 Leading Sires for 2010 as at 07 Jan 2010 (By Number of Wins)

1 SURF LORIAN
289 -42-38-37 14.53%
2 PURE OCTANE
219 -39-31-30 17.08%
3 WHERES PEDRO
216 -36-26-35 16.66%
4 BIG DADDY COOL
200 -32-36-30 16.00%
5 PRIMO UNO
167 -31-27-20 18.56%
6 ELITE STATE
179 -28-21-32 15.64%
7 BOMBASTIC SHIRAZ
249 -27-33-26 10.84%
8 COLLISION
162 -27-24-16 16.66%
9 BOND
239 -24-35-31 10.04%
10 HALLUCINATE
130 -20-18-22 15.38%
11 BLACK ENFORCER
94 -18-17-10 19.14%
12 BIT CHILI
58 -12-12-7 20.68%
13 WHISKY ASSASSIN
95 -10-9-12 10.52%
14 BRETT LEE
66 -10-6-11 15.15%
15 GO WILD TEDDY
92 -9-14-14 9.78%
16 PREMIER FANTASY
42 -8-7-2 19.04%
17 ELGRANDO
62 -6-9-4 9.67%
18 GABLE LAFOURCHE
27 -6-4-2 22.22%
19 VAPOUR WHIRL
16 -6-2-1 37.05%
20 HOTLINE HERO
28 -5-8-4 17.85%

Does anyone think that anything other than Surf Lorian will be on top of the Australian Sires List at the end of 2010. I don't have any huge rapts on Surf Lorian, he is OK but I don't think there is, overall, much difference between the top 10 or more sires. I don't know who got what bitches in 2007 and 2008 and how many overall, I suppose this will be the vital factor.

is there anywhere where i can find leading sires by percentage of winning strike rate
as we know if a dog throws 10000 pups 40 might win but what about doing it as a sire that could have thrown 10 pups for 8 winners thats the sire i would be wanting to use

i can see the percentages beside the results
but can we do a top 20 sires list based off win / strike rate percentage