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Old 06-21-2009, 01:32 PM
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Jeepers talk about going in head first! didn't anyone tell you that you have to learn how to crawl before you can walk??

fyi I did look into syndicates and nothing about them drew my interest. Why the hell would i want to stick my money at a dog and i have no personal attachment to. I am not interested in making money, its strictly a hobby and I want to have a crack at. And if for whatever reason my dog doesnt make the track, I still have a beatiful loving pet. So whats the harm in this? After all its better having this attitude than 7/8ths of the rest of the owners/trainers that put their dogs down quicker than you can shake a stick at. Most of these folks turnover huge numbers of animals and I think its bullshit.
I have started reading this forum to gain some more valuable information from others folks and most here have been alot of help. so i dont need some asshole like you telling me to crawl before i walk.
thank you much.

Whippee,
How absolutely disgusted i was to read your reply to me after going out of my way and providing links with valuable information for yourself in your endeavour to raise and train your greyhounds.
You come on to this forum asking for any help that we can offer you and in return you label me an "ARSEHOLE"..
How dare you even think about saying such a thing in your own mind let alone posting it on a forum for all to see, which are also owners/trainers who have already been where you are and all offering their "ADVICE"
This industry that you are getting into is'nt that big when you look at it, what i mean by that is most owners/trainers in each state somewhere along the line either know each other or may have met and for you to have an unjustified outburst at me calling me an "ARSEHOLE" is'nt the smartest thing for anyone to say especially for someone who is just starting out in this wonderful industry.
I for one will never again offer any advice to you, why anyone else after your disgraceful outburst on this forum would want to offer you any further advice also.
Two other forum members replied to my post with the start of their own post saying "SPOT ON" so one can only assume that in your mind these forum members also who have given up their own time to respond to your requests for help and knowledge are unfortunately "ARSEHOLES" just like me because they agreed with what i said!!!!
If for some reason you can't except advice or help from people, don't ask.
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:29 PM
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Whippee,
How absolutely disgusted i was to read your reply to me after going out of my way and providing links with valuable information for yourself in your endeavour to raise and train your greyhounds.
You come on to this forum asking for any help that we can offer you and in return you label me an "ARSEHOLE"..
How dare you even think about saying such a thing in your own mind let alone posting it on a forum for all to see, which are also owners/trainers who have already been where you are and all offering their "ADVICE"
This industry that you are getting into is'nt that big when you look at it, what i mean by that is most owners/trainers in each state somewhere along the line either know each other or may have met and for you to have an unjustified outburst at me calling me an "ARSEHOLE" is'nt the smartest thing for anyone to say especially for someone who is just starting out in this wonderful industry.
I for one will never again offer any advice to you, why anyone else after your disgraceful outburst on this forum would want to offer you any further advice also.
Two other forum members replied to my post with the start of their own post saying "SPOT ON" so one can only assume that in your mind these forum members also who have given up their own time to respond to your requests for help and knowledge are unfortunately "ARSEHOLES" just like me because they agreed with what i said!!!!
If for some reason you can't except advice or help from people, don't ask.
I thank you for taking the time post those links. my question for you is how is telling "me i need to crawl before i can walk" advice? I have chose to buy a pup and take that route. If anyone else on this forum doesnt want to offer me any advice thats fine, mind you no one else has written a sterotypical reply like yours. Maybe i have misunderstood your reply, I dont know. if i have any other questions i will certainly post them on this forum and hopefully someone will assist, as many have done so far.
thanks again
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Old 06-21-2009, 11:15 PM
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Jeepers talk about going in head first didn't anyone tell you that you have to learn how to crawl before you can walk
Good luck pal it's a great ride that you are about to embark on all the best......Whippee, a euphanism? a term? um i dont know what word it is im lookin for I would of thought buying a pup is learning to crawl ? well thats the way im looking at it anyway honestly dont think GALTY was being "critical" though. Im sure he would have a story or maybe even 2 of hard lessons learned
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Old 06-20-2009, 12:53 PM
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GALTY i also jumped into a shallow pool and the links you put up except S.A.. is where i "learnt" a bit but i guess we all started some where
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:09 PM
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Willy yes we all have to start somewhere as you said what i am saying is that ownership/training of a greyhound is'nt something that you should jump into because you enjoy haveing a punt on them and watching them run around a track.
I started my venture back in mid 2003 funnily enough for the exact reasons that i have just stated the difference being that i contacted GRSA and spoke to the stewards there, received all the important relative information that i needed in regards to setting up my own syndicate which i did and then going out to a few trainers kennels and finding a trainer who i felt comfortable with and would also be willing to house and train a greyhound that i purchased.
I found this way is a fantastic and practicle way of getting your feet wet in this industry, by doing this then you will definately get the behind the scenes experience and really find out if training a greyhound is what you really want to do and if you have the time to also put in to it.
My syndicate has had extremely good luck with the greyhounds we have purchased over the recent years with them all paying for themselves plus topping up our bank account and haveing some good wins including the 2004 Strathalbyn Cup and the 2005 South Australian Sprint Championship at Angle Park.
The syndicate that i started back in 2003 is still going now but nothing running around at present as last year we took the next step and got into breeding with our first litter of pups to Bombastic Shiraz now being 14 months and our brood has recently been inseminated again to Digital and due to whelp in 10 days time.
As for myself i have again taken another step and just completed all the paperwork and running around to aquire my Owner/Trainer Licence which i am greatly looking forward to my next venture in the industry.
Hope this all makes some practicle sense but this is a sure way that i would tell anyone to get into the industry with out as i said jumping in head first.

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Old 06-20-2009, 02:27 PM
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spot on GALTY! i wasnt a punter i actually trained and bred sheep/cattle dogs, which unfortunately i lost all that on a recent well known fire, including all dogs and pups right in front of me, I could not go back into that as you could imagine my reasons why, so a complete change was needed and being a dog lover i looked into greyhounds. I know that the 2 breeds and training styles are quite the opposite but they do have some similaritys (chase and run) also at the moment im only rearing my own pups to get the upper hand so to speak, and intend having them trained by someone else
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Willy yes we all have to start somewhere as you said what i am saying is that ownership/training of a greyhound is'nt something that you should jump into because you enjoy haveing a punt on them and watching them run around a track.
I started my venture back in mid 2003 funnily enough for the exact reasons that i have just stated the difference being that i contacted GRSA and spoke to the stewards there, received all the important relative information that i needed in regards to setting up my own syndicate which i did and then going out to a few trainers kennels and finding a trainer who i felt comfortable with and would also be willing to house and train a greyhound that i purchased.
I found this way is a fantastic and practicle way of getting your feet wet in this industry, by doing this then you will definately get the behind the scenes experience and really find out if training a greyhound is what you really want to do and if you have the time to also put in to it.
My syndicate has had extremely good luck with the greyhounds we have purchased over the recent years with them all paying for themselves plus topping up our bank account and haveing some good wins including the 2004 Strathalbyn Cup and the 2005 South Australian Sprint Championship at Angle Park.
The syndicate that i started back in 2003 is still going now but nothing running around at present as last year we took the next step and got into breeding with our first litter of pups to Bombastic Shiraz now being 14 months and our brood has recently been inseminated again to Digital and due to whelp in 10 days time.
As for myself i have again taken another step and just completed all the paperwork and running around to aquire my Owner/Trainer Licence which i am greatly looking forward to my next venture in the industry.
Hope this all makes some practicle sense but this is a sure way that i would tell anyone to get into the industry with out as i said jumping in head first.

Galty


Spot on! That is exactly what all new owners should do, start out getting their feet wet first without jumping headlong into purchasing a young puppy/racedog lol

Also, I've noticed that on Gdata sometimes overseas members offer feeding/training advice to Oz members, while it's all good, they have to remember that it's better for Oz members to listen to Oz trainers as there are different methods/practices which aren't suitable for Oz style racing dogs. Just my opinion, it's a free world and hey whatever suits/works for someone, stick to it!

Looking at how they rear pups over in Ireland/England for example and how they train dogs, they have completely different feeding methods. (They call kibble, "nuts" as well lol I wonder why?)
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:57 PM
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best advice i could give is get your hands on a copy of the book "Care of the Racing Greyhound" by greyhound vet Des Fegan, he has copys at his clinic im not sure of his number, but i do no grv have copys as well so you can call them, i think its around $70
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:29 PM
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yep been chasing that book actually, so now i can hone in on where to get a copy thanks Nickg
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:33 PM
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LILY was reading a post somewhere the other day and some thought the irish meant NUTS as in peanuts lol luckily i have half a brain and had figured it out,, what cracked me was "whole, crushed or ground nuts' Q
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