Hmmm really I don't think it matters if u really know your dogs u would be mad to not use Damek as a stud just because he hasnt won in Vic I would and will be using him when he gies to stud, doesn't matter what way u look at it the dog is bloody fast and broken 4 track records thus far, good enough for me, track records hold more ground than group 1 win IMO

so a tassies track record means more then winning a melbourne cup?

are you for real? bahahahaha

tassie is as weak as it has ever been, ask the top tassie trainers and they will tell you that

whilst damek is a bloody good dog it is like chalk and cheese


whilst egs hasnt travelled interstate he has won group 1 races agaisnt the best dogs

damkek has broke track records agaisnt 5th graders, you race on what 3 tracks there? apart from the top 5 or so dogs there isnt much to beat

when damek has raced in melbourne he hasnt done a thing, granted i dont think it was ideal he was bought over race day and im not knocking the trainer but to blame travel arangements is dribble, scr him get 10 days instead of racing him when he hasnt travelled over at the last minute to well.

track records means jack if there not at the major 3 or 4 tracks in aus, whilst he might do well in tassie at stud in australia he needs to win on the mainland to attract people from other states and he must win in fast time or win a group 1

remember goodsey, simillar story to damek at this stage, very fast dog but didnt do it against the best and his numbers at stud have been very low

forget egs has only raced in vic, he has won 2 of the 3 big group 1s in aus, thats enough for a stud career in anyones language

you ask why he isnt coming over for the thousand, why didnt damek come over for the melbourne cup heats?????????


both dogs are as fast as an dog going around, id love to see them race even better id love to see a club put on a match race, but i have never seen a dog do what egs has done to the 2nd mark at the meadows, ive seen many many many good dogs trial and race there but his times are mind blowing, he breaks dogs hearts...

how many track records has egs got ????????? cheers chub

egs has a great record 15 starts on country tracks for 12 w 2s +1 5th in the city14 starts for 11 w 1 s +2 4ths and $402,125 in stakemoney according to E DOG but no track records as yet only sectional split records it will be interesting to see how long he continues to race before retiring to stud.

not denying that he is a good dog and i will say damek is a good dog and yes we have only three tracks here in tassy and vic has 12 and their spending millions on them to keep some of those country tracks going when it could be going towards even better prizemoney the majority of o/t in tassie are happy racing on those tracks and to say damek broke tr against moderate opposition he still done it against 7 other dogs and yet egs with brilliant 1+2 sectionals in 29 starts hasnt equalled or broke a tr a lot like el galo uses it all up in the first 400 whereas damek is still strong at the end of his races. cheers chub.

No one is knocking EGS tho, but likewise he has done the same there as Damek has here, stayed in there own state, in all honesty Hobart would break EGS's heart, the dog is very fast for the first 400 like chub said but the uphill run home at Hobart us a killer, and that's where he would be past, cause he uses it all up early

There is no way u can compare damek to goodesy, Damek is honest, goodesy is a nonnie, if he doesnt lead he gives up, Damek was basically sat on his face, got himself together and still won by lengths

that comes back to eary speed wins races on 99% of tracks aus wide, so to say eg and egs use it all up early well it won them plenty hasnt it??

alot of the vic track records are held by out and out champions, dogs who have made it at stud, some of the records have stood the test of times over many years, plan and simple egs isnt a strong dog, his final split is average but he is still running 25.50s at sandown, i got super strong dogs who wouldnt get close if hand slipped from the bend

im sure egs would also look super strong over 450 agaisnt slow dogs

big moose is another example, great dog, i still rate him very highly won what 48 races in tassie?? when he came over to the mainland he couldnt match it with the "best" but granted he came over for the top races and pushed el galo is brisbane. to date damek has failled against grade 5 dogs on the mainland.

im not bagging the dog i think he is a super animal, but the tags people put on them (not the owners or trainer) makes it hard for the dog because people judge them harshly on there performances. i have no doubt the dog is good enough to match it with the top dogs, but i dont think he would beat egs. egs is a dog from out of this world, no brett lee but the way he is going might end up the second best weve seen

but for kyleigh to suggest a tassie track record is worth more value then group 1s, im sorry thats the best dribble ove heard on here

side note

didnt egs break the horsham track record at his 2nd or 3rd start?

maybe it has been broken since but im sure he broke it early on

Do u not understand IMO! That was what I said for me to use him he doesn't need a Melbourne cup track records will do me

Well I was at horsham on his 3 rd start and no he didn't that night he came 2nd, and he hadn't broken it then