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Old 01-27-2010, 03:54 PM
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Maybe you could strap it to the lure next time?
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:07 PM
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Small word of advice...Take it or leave it..Not trying to start any trouble, but if considering entering a dog in a strong maiden series where dogs will easily break 23..if not run in the 22.60s zone..entering a dog who can run at best 23.20 in my opinion is a silly move. Outside of the fact, you get to see your dog race and you have to be in it to win it...yes.....Dogs get disheartened when having to chase dogs they have no chance at all of catching and it can actually bring negative repercusions down the track.

With that being said, if its just a dog you are looking at havign some fun with and do not really mind what happens, then by all means enter it in whatever you mind. Just be wary that entering dogs out of there grade, isnt just a case of "o well, that race was too hard, better luck next time", but more a case for the dogs head. Alot of the time, dogs have loads of ability but cant put it together on the track cuz of their "head".

Just food for thought tho..Hope the dog wins some races
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:50 PM
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Poizun mate, If my dog can't run the times required to win any race, then the dog will never be entered. I know what times my dogs need to run at any track to be in with a chance. When I get to know my dogs abilities, then I will know whats to become of them. Whether they stay or they go, I will know what to do. At the moment Lady has shown me that their maybe something there and it takes time to get it out of her. As for my other dog Bess, I'm still looking for something from her, but because of injuries she hasn't had much of a go.
If any of these dogs race I will let you know on this forum.

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Old 01-27-2010, 05:09 PM
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Poizun mate, If my dog can't run the times required to win any race, then the dog will never be entered. I know what times my dogs need to run at any track to be in with a chance. When I get to know my dogs abilities, then I will know whats to become of them. Whether they stay or they go, I will know what to do. At the moment Lady has shown me that their maybe something there and it takes time to get it out of her. As for my other dog Bess, I'm still looking for something from her, but because of injuries she hasn't had much of a go.
If any of these dogs race I will let you know on this forum.

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Im sure you do know your dogs and my comment was a mere observation of watching other feature races with trainers entering there dogs and getting beaten 20 lengths out of site.....

Hopefully for you, that all come good...=) and me if i get on the punt lol
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:09 PM
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Small word of advice...Take it or leave it..Not trying to start any trouble, but if considering entering a dog in a strong maiden series where dogs will easily break 23..if not run in the 22.60s zone..entering a dog who can run at best 23.20 in my opinion is a silly move. Outside of the fact, you get to see your dog race and you have to be in it to win it...yes.....Dogs get disheartened when having to chase dogs they have no chance at all of catching and it can actually bring negative repercusions down the track.

With that being said, if its just a dog you are looking at havign some fun with and do not really mind what happens, then by all means enter it in whatever you mind. Just be wary that entering dogs out of there grade, isnt just a case of "o well, that race was too hard, better luck next time", but more a case for the dogs head. Alot of the time, dogs have loads of ability but cant put it together on the track cuz of their "head".

Just food for thought tho..Hope the dog wins some races
i actually agree with poizun

the last couple of big maidens in nsw winners have been won by lochinvar marlow and magic spirite, both have the abilty to make the top grade, looking at the dogs who made the finals and finished behind them you see alot of dogs who have gone on and won plenty of races since some even running in group events

when there is 10k on the line for a maiden race alot of dogs are held back and the smart trainers like azzopardi, mackay, andy lord, sultana's etc will always have some jet set for it, throw in the wheelers dogs and kevin gordon normally has a maiden saved for the big events and poizun is right dogs are running sub 22.60s even some of the jets going faster

in other words coops, we wana plunge first up so take her to golburn so we can clean the bookie out
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:50 PM
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There is no doubt that there is a hell of a lot of sense in what Poizun says, in fact, I would say "I couldn't agree more". I was wondering what Coops and/or Morgan had said to motivate Poizun to offer this good advice. At a quick glance I noted Coops' light hearted reference to the Super Maiden Series and assumed that this was it. I don't think Coops was serious but it would be nice if Surfin Bird or whatever it is called "jumped out of the ground" in the next couple of weeks, so much so that Coops thought a start was justified but I don't think so. An easier maiden somewhere would be good for starters. Good luck everybody.
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:10 PM
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just think guys, if lady can't get the times down to 22.50 over the 400 mtrs, what make you think she can't get the times down to 30.50 for the 535 mtrs, coz thats the distance for the Super maiden race.

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Old 01-27-2010, 09:37 PM
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Hey Coops I don't even know where the Super Maiden series is being run, still don't, in fact, I had never heard of it until today. However, what I do know is that the principle of what Poizun is talking about makes sense, that is, just as a general observation. Good luck with Lady, we want to see Lady knock HMT off the throne as best bitch in the litter (I'm sure Nick won't mind). I have made an assumption that Philbar is a dog, haven't got a clue but can't be bothered checking, I'm just giving the current title to HMT (for the time being).
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Hey Coops I don't even know where the Super Maiden series is being run, still don't, in fact, I had never heard of it until today. However, what I do know is that the principle of what Poizun is talking about makes sense, that is, just as a general observation. Good luck with Lady, we want to see Lady knock HMT off the throne as best bitch in the litter (I'm sure Nick won't mind). I have made an assumption that Philbar is a dog, haven't got a clue but can't be bothered checking, I'm just giving the current title to HMT (for the time being).
long as lady gives us a return shot at the title im happy
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:33 AM
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I am happy to see either have the title at any given time as long as they are both going extra well BUT what I am particularly looking forward to is the "trash talk" that should go on in the lead-up to the respective "bouts". Mundine and Green will be completely over-shadowed. Nick, you are going to be out-numbered (Coops, Lily and Morgan) delivering the "trash talk" but somehow I think you are going to be able to hold your own without too much trouble. This could be seen as a back-handed compliment but make no mistake it is a positive compliment, I love a bit of "trash talk", well maybe not when it is Mundine dishing it out. It is often another one of those cases when I have to leave the room to escape from the embarrassment.
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