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Old 03-10-2010, 09:04 PM
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She will be right Coops.

Hopefully she wins tomorrow then we test her next week in a Nowra TAB race.
To me it would make more sense to put her in a TAB maiden meetings, with a shot at an extra 500 bucks then to step her up from a NON tab maiden to a G5 TAB which is an even bigger step up in class. So i guess that thinking has two positives if im right, which i might not be =/
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:32 PM
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There is a very good reason for her racing a non-tab meeting.

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Old 03-10-2010, 09:37 PM
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There is a very good reason for her racing a non-tab meeting.

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Im sure you do. But if the goal is to enter her in a TAB meet as soon as she wins her NON tab maiden, to me that just doesnt make sense why that would be the plan, because if she isnt good enough for a maiden TAB, gl in a g5
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:44 PM
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Is that what you do with your dogs?

Another question for you. Why do they have non-tab meetings?

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Is that what you do with your dogs?

Another question for you. Why do they have non-tab meetings?

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I dont have that much experience in training, actually I would say on a spectrum of 1-10, I would be towards the lower end of experience at 2 or 3 only which makes my opinion virtually useless.

With that being said, I am a very logical guy.

If I have a dog which I believe currently is not good enough for TAB class, then naturally I will enter it in a non-tab meeting, like healsville for instance.

If it was to win a race there, I would not just go and enter it straight into a TAB meeting. The reason I entered it in a non-TAB meeting in the first place is because as a trainer I believe she is suited to that class of dog at the current time. This opinion does not change overnight just because she wins a maiden at a non-tab.

However, if i had a dog that could be competitive and win a maiden at a TAB meeting, then I would definetly enter it for that for 2 reasons. One, more prize money, because that is what you race for, and also, when she wins her maiden, the jump up in class to a TAB G5 wont be as steep as going from a NON-TAB win.

Now if I am wrong and a non-tab maiden win does not really count and you can still race at a TAB maiden, then I am sorry.

I was under the assumption these meetings were created to let some of the lesser skilled dogs win some money and races for their owners and trainers as well as get other dogs fit.
i.e Alot of star dogs get fit running at Healsville for a few runs back from a spell before racing in town. However, you do not see these types racing there maidens there.

Im not trying to be a prick, but I am just trying to understand the logic of if you believe you have a dog that can win a maiden in TAB class, and your goal is to race in a g5 tab race as soon as it wins its maiden, why you would go to a non-tab maiden race, unless you are going for an easy kill and want a guaranteed G5 start the following week and are happy to sacrifice $500 in the process.

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I can't recall me saying anywhere that the dog can win at a TAB meeting. I have said that she is not good enough yet to race at a TAB meeting.
If you go back to page 15 I do state that in a post.
So again. I race the dog at a non-tab meeting because she is not good enough yet for a TAB meeting.
At the moment she is racing at a distance of 279mtrs. There is no TAB meeting where they run that distance. Do I put her in a distance to qualify for a TAB nomination and probably ruin her for life or do I slowly build her up to that distance and hopefully get the times required to possibly win a TAB meeting. She's got a long way to go to get there and she may never get there. If she doesn't I can't say I didn't try. But I'm not going to ruin her for the sake of more dollars. I'll be happy if she wins tomorrow, but there is no garrentee on that. There are 7 other dog trainers hoping for that glory too.
A maiden race is the hardest race of them all.
I'll say it once more. She is just an ordinary dog.

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Old 03-11-2010, 12:45 PM
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Good luck Surfin Bird
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Hey Coops, your low key, conservative approach, makes me think of you as the "Bart Cummings" of dog racing and maybe that makes Morgan Dato Chin Tan. Maybe some of the Racingforum readers want you to get a bit of the "Tommy Smith" going, "she'll win for sure, they WON'T beat her". The only problem is that she won't have a jockey for you to blame, Tommy was pretty good at that and Bart is not too bad either. As I write the race may have already been run for all I know but I will say "good luck" anyway.
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Bad news with Bess fell in the first race, lets hope all is okay.

Hoepfully Lady can win for Bess.
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My bad coops if your intentions werent to enter her str8 into a TAB race at Nowra once she broke her duck through the non-tabs. I just took Morgans comment as the plan of attack for you two..
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