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Morgan 10-05-2008 02:45 PM

Favourite Sire?
 
Whats everyones favourite sire and why?

At the moment mine would have to be Black Enforcer has been consistantly throwing out good litters.

TheChook 10-05-2008 05:59 PM

Big Daddy Cool.

Biased opinion of course as my bitch has thrown a good litter to him, and is being inseminate tomorrow with a repeat mating.

He is well bred, and is throwing many good pups... and many with ability.

Morgan 10-05-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheChook (Post 8573)
Big Daddy Cool.

Biased opinion of course as my bitch has thrown a good litter to him, and is being inseminate tomorrow with a repeat mating.

He is well bred, and is throwing many good pups... and many with ability.

Totally agree for a proven sire i think Big daddy cool is one of the best been throwing some very smart litters and continues to produce the goods.

Morgan 10-08-2008 12:30 AM

Also like Solve The Puzzle has produced some very nice runners, dont like the no refund if bitch misses though.

noelkeane 10-11-2008 11:27 AM

sire
 
from my point of view(been in ireland) never give up
bdc just isnt doing it over here

coops 10-11-2008 11:39 AM

I was speaking to a couple of breeding trainers last night at Richmond and they tell me that it is common that bitches are inseminated these days and not done the natural way. Can anyone shed some light on this as to why?

coops

noelkeane 10-11-2008 11:41 AM

serveral reasons one can do more bitches that way heatlhy of the stud and the stress on him if busy

TheChook 10-11-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by coops (Post 8667)
I was speaking to a couple of breeding trainers last night at Richmond and they tell me that it is common that bitches are inseminated these days and not done the natural way. Can anyone shed some light on this as to why?

coops

Some stud dogs (this can differ) when theyre drawn may throw enough semen to serve anything from 1-10 bitches (some may throw enough for more but i know a dog with enough for 10)
For a $1,000 sire, if they go natural they could have had an extra 9 straws sold aka extra $9,000

But there can be many other reasons too.... ill find those out when i get my own stud dog hehe :D :rolleyes: ima dreaming

Mindoro Miss 11-09-2008 08:53 PM

What are peoples thoughts on Bond?

Blackdeath 11-18-2008 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coops (Post 8667)
I was speaking to a couple of breeding trainers last night at Richmond and they tell me that it is common that bitches are inseminated these days and not done the natural way. Can anyone shed some light on this as to why?

coops

The Chook is on the money. Very little wastage and it also makes the sires stud life last longer. The more semen available as straws the more $$$ the stud master can make. The sire also now has an oppurtunity to enter overseas markets with the sale of frozen semen. Today you can pick what ever sire you like anywhere in the world and you can access his genes via frozen semen.

Once you have the semen. It then becomes the problem of the vet and the owner of the bitch or the breeder as to what happens as far as having pups is concerned.

Also the sire is not put at risk of catching any sexually transmitted deseases via insemination.

TheChook 11-18-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindoro Miss (Post 9544)
What are peoples thoughts on Bond?

Bond himself, beautiful..
His offspring..... will never touch one of his pups again.

Filthy filthy filthy filthy filthy!

RodStrachan 11-19-2008 09:10 PM

Bombastic Shiraz is the best sire in the country at the present for mine and not because we have a litter by him 3 months old. He is getting winners everywhere at all levels! Nitro Burst (Vic Peters Final) Smart Betsy (Wenty Mega maiden), Phil's Mate Geelong track record, Cindeen Shelby YSC final at Wenty, Super stayers Sky Hazard and Flashing Floods (2007 Australian GOTY), Bye Bye Bones, Bit Chili, Snozz, Velocette and the list goes on.

Solid mentions to Where's Pedro and Elite State for mine

bundy 11-27-2008 03:30 AM

Bombastic Shiraz Im weary about, lately he has been getting progeny (i know they all do but his are in bigger numbers and more noticeable) who are fighters.

However, he can and will throw an amazing pup.

My favorite sires at the moment would be Over Flo and Surf Lorian.

Morgan 11-27-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bundy (Post 9856)
Bombastic Shiraz Im weary about, lately he has been getting progeny (i know they all do but his are in bigger numbers and more noticeable) who are fighters.

However, he can and will throw an amazing pup.

My favorite sires at the moment would be Over Flo and Surf Lorian.

Lets hope Made to size can win the Melbourne Cup tonight, im guessing if he does surf lorian will get booked out pretty quickly.

YUTHAPINABOY 11-27-2008 11:04 AM

Hello Bundy, re Bombastic Shiraz you say "...LATELY he has been getting progeny who are fighters". He has been around quite some time now and therefore it is what his progeny have done over the whole of that time. Let me tell you, your observations would be a lot more reliable than my own but I am a bit concerned by the reference to LATELY. It might be that you have noticed this LATELY but I can't see why Bombastic Shiraz's progeny would all of a sudden be more prone to becoming fighters. I don't think you mean this but that's how it reads from my perspective. Sorry if I am being pedantic. And "yes" I do, through personal interest, have a small "soft spot" for Bombastic Shiraz but I do emphasise, "small", I don't care all that much. I can't claim to have any favourite sire but one thing is for sure, I don't like the progency to be TOO MAD. My long-time observation is, that's when you are more likely to get fighters. I like them to be keen but importantly, also sensible .

RodStrachan 12-10-2008 09:19 PM

Not sure where that comment comes from but I'll say this a very astute breeder told me BDC has the biggest number of fighters on the ground and had 5 in one week get a ticket just 2 weeks ago all in one week....As fro BS I have no connection to the dog but wonder where the fighters are???

RodStrachan 12-30-2008 07:35 PM

Bond? hmm have one she can trial anything but has not idea in a field! Not struck on the big black dog myself!

morningstain 01-11-2009 08:24 PM

what do people think paddys flame stud future is going to be like. i ilke him because he was such a hard chaser.

TheChook 01-11-2009 09:46 PM

IMO a lot of bitches could do with some outcross. Paddy has outcross and a sensational damline. Top it off, he was damn fast!

Cant see why he wont make it providing he gets the bitches.

Morgan 01-12-2009 10:17 AM

Yep, i agree paddies flame IMO has all the qualities of a stud dog although i dont think he gets many bitches thus no one can really tell how good his pups are.

Gippy 01-12-2009 10:58 AM

Its all about the $!!!


I"m dropping off two Bond pups to be broken in this week, so fingers crossed! He seems to be steadily working his way up the ladder and from what I,ve seen a few 500m+ dogs which is good to see!
I'll have a bitch to breed with in the next year and I've been thinking either BDC or Pure Octane as he has some nice young ones going at the moment as well!!
But its like tatslotto all the research and study of bloodlines can amount to zero!!!!

Morgan 01-12-2009 11:05 AM

Yep, you just have to get lucky! You can only make educated decisions to try and get smart dogs although there is a massive element of luck.

Gippy 01-12-2009 12:59 PM

A top bitch I was involved with came about like this! A rural product salesman/ dog trainer gave away a non chasing bitch to some dairy farmer customers who became interested in dogs, they went to the nearest possible sire (20 min away) who was not a big name sire and bred a litter!! No thought whatsoever went into a sire. This litter produced a Sydney Cup winner and the rest of the litter all won races at TAB class, Yet after that first litter when the advice started coming I think she only threw one more half decent chaser!!
My point is you have to be lucky!
If your breeding to sell you need a top Sire, but if your breeding to race them yourself you can afford to take a chance on a lesser light!


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