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Paul Bullock 08-01-2010 09:39 PM

Chief Steward Needs Appointing
 
Tasmania has been without a Chief Steward for six months.This state needs one as soon as possible.We require someone who can actually read a race .Obviously no suitable person applied for the job.Maybe the powers that be are playing politics again PLB.

Gippy 08-02-2010 01:15 PM

Who is running the show at the moment?? Who is the bloke who came over from from W.A?? We are talking Greyhounds arn't we??

Paul Bullock 08-02-2010 05:07 PM

The person you are refering to is originally from tas .had abad expierience with a motor bike on a pacing track in W.A I believe PLB

Box 1 08-02-2010 08:27 PM

A.S.A.P.......Enough is enough it has gone on for long enough,Tas Greyhound Racing is quickly becoming the laughing stock of the Greyhound Industry....

chub 08-03-2010 12:55 AM

and so say a lot of people cheers chub.:D

Gippy 08-03-2010 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Bullock (Post 17716)
The person you are refering to is originally from tas .had abad expierience with a motor bike on a pacing track in W.A I believe PLB

Yeah thats him!! Heard he is a real bright spark and has the personality of a Tiger Snake.
Whats the problem?? Isn't there anyone capable in Tas to take on the job or you referred to "politics" as a problem, are you able to elaborate on that at all? I suppose with such a small racing community you may need an outsider who comes in with no "mates" in the industry to shake things up!!

penny 08-03-2010 01:16 PM

dont need m8's what we want in tasmania is someone who can see dogs marring and ftc and when a dog gets almost knocked over at the start of a race
its absolute bulldust what these "STEWARDS"?????? are letting dogs get away with while they sit on there arses and do sweet f all .and the time when none of them seen that bird run across the track
well that just showed the rest of australia what DICKHEADS we have in charge of greyhound racing and the racing minister is sitting on his bum doing sweet f all as well except takling his pay for doing nothing WHAT A JOKE no wonder people are getting out or moving out of tasmania to race interstate :rolleyes::o

Paul Bullock 08-03-2010 01:26 PM

Rumour has it that RST had Some applications for the position but obviously none of them suited the job.No interviews have occured to my knowledge.A couple of Stewards have resigned since applications closed I am lead to believe to take up jobs elsewhere.Could there be internal problems ? PLB

chub 08-03-2010 02:02 PM

paul
since amanda wasnt reappointed and the job was advertised in may the reason that they cant interview anyone i believe is CONFLICT OF INTEREST and again nothing has been done about it but tas racing couldnt care less apparently otherwise stewards wouldnt be leaving and we would have a CHIEF STEWARD but who knows me may get one by christmas ill have to go i just saw the tooth fairy cheers chub.:D:D

Gippy 08-03-2010 03:14 PM

It doesn't take a brilliant person to annalize a race does it??? Shit I could tell you if a dog hasn't chased or has stumbled out of the boxes etc!!!! Obviously the Racing minister has to step in and take control of the situation, surely its not that hard???

chub 08-03-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gippy (Post 17726)
It doesn't take a brilliant person to annalize a race does it??? Shit I could tell you if a dog hasn't chased or has stumbled out of the boxes etc!!!! Obviously the Racing minister has to step in and take control of the situation, surely its not that hard???

well in my opinion it must be hard they have had 7 months now and still no chief steward only ex or current trotting stewards and a few learners or stewards from other areas .cheers chub.:mad:

dodger 08-03-2010 06:07 PM

Doesn't Micky Stringer train a dog for the Racing Minister?

chub 08-03-2010 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodger (Post 17733)
Doesn't Micky Stringer train a dog for the Racing Minister?

well dodger thats another story according to the RUMOUR MILL the dog raced and the premier of tasmania wasnt i believe registered at the time but thats only what the RUMOUR MILL said cheers chub.:D

Box 1 08-03-2010 06:52 PM

lol.....Careful Chub... i don't wanna see you get a severe reprimand again from the so called powers to be...lol...but i thinks you may be correct on the rumour mill....!!!

Paul Bullock 08-03-2010 07:48 PM

Interesting responses.I doubt that any person would be allowed to race any thing in this state without being a registered person. The rule book is very specific.The person at the top is very stong on integrity and probity.I doubt he would let anything like special treatment happen.PLB

penny 08-03-2010 07:50 PM

well i think chub was right in what he said about the STEWARDS:confused:they couldnt see a hole in a ladder and thats not all they cant see ive looked and i cant see where they put the seeing eye dog and the white cane lol :p

Box 1 08-03-2010 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Bullock (Post 17736)
Interesting responses.I doubt that any person would be allowed to race any thing in this state without being a registered person. The rule book is very specific.The person at the top is very stong on integrity and probity.I doubt he would let anything like special treatment happen.PLB

maybe...!!! the Rumour mill is way off.....Mr Bullock...!!!:)

chub 08-03-2010 08:51 PM

well tasmania has its own racing website make what you will of this it was posted on the SOUTH AUSTRALIAN GREYHOUND SITE cheers chub

http://www.grsa.com.au/resources/1/s...dia%20Rose.pdf

Box 1 08-03-2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chub (Post 17739)
well tasmania has its own racing website make what you will of this it was posted on the SOUTH AUSTRALIAN GREYHOUND SITE cheers chub

http://www.grsa.com.au/resources/1/s...dia%20Rose.pdf



PMSL...unbloody real....Typical..!!!!:D

Gippy 08-04-2010 10:51 AM

Forgive me if I'm a little slow on the uptake, but what is the significance of this??

Paul Bullock 08-04-2010 11:02 AM

Gippy More seem to be leaving than staying.Local paper has a response today .Inteviews for twostewards on Friday 26 applicants.Greyhound Chief Steward Interviews two or threeweeks away maybe.Interesting article says amanda hill has reapplied?Probably the best qualified maybe too directPLB.

chub 08-04-2010 01:23 PM

well paul after 7 months its not before time they had INTERVIEWS for CHIEF STEWARD here in tasmania i certainly hope someone is appointed before xmas cheers chub.:D

penny 08-04-2010 10:34 PM

as long as they appoint someone who can actually read a race and give a proper report.

Box 1 08-04-2010 11:13 PM

spot on Penny its not to much to ask for....its not Rocket science..!!!

chub 08-06-2010 05:02 PM

seems now that the stewards in hobart are doing the veterinary checks on dogs before kenneling after the vet was considerably late at the hobart meeting held last night
can a steward authorise another steward to do veterinary tests on dogs to compete on race night ?????? hmmmm very interesting that one cheers chub.

Box 1 08-06-2010 06:50 PM

After opening the kennels 15min'a late to start with chub,we then never had a vet.... an one known Steward decided to do the vet check himself,which was more like patting the dogs at a show than a vet check,then proceded to tell us that the dogs will be checked by a vet properly when we get them out ready for to race,which also didn't happen.......what a hoot last night was..!!!:mad:

chub 08-06-2010 07:15 PM

well can anyone tell me about the rumour that at the NWGRC a fortnight ago that a certain trainers dog was to be swabbed after locking the dog away and then getting it out the ladle was apparently contaminated so then the specimen container/s had powder or something similar in or on them and other specimen seals were opened and couldnt be used so then they decided to do a mouth swab and proceeded to drop all the mouth swabs and so couldnt use them if this RUMOUR is true the circus is getting worse cheers chub.

Box 1 08-06-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chub (Post 17770)
well can anyone tell me about the rumour that at the NWGRC a fortnight ago that a certain trainers dog was to be swabbed after locking the dog away and then getting it out the ladle was apparently contaminated so then the specimen container/s had powder or something similar in or on them and other specimen seals were opened and couldnt be used so then they decided to do a mouth swab and proceeded to drop all the mouth swabs and so couldnt use them if this RUMOUR is true the circus is getting worse cheers chub.

200% correct Chub...no Rumour mate its facts...!!!!!

cheyenne 08-06-2010 08:31 PM

chub post an part of rumour nwgrc prevented a dog from having a swab. box1 writes 200% correct chub no rumour mate its facts . well if this is fact there should be federal police investergation in to nsw racing offocials..from the top to the bottom. and sacking should be on the agenda.

penny 08-06-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheyenne (Post 17774)
chub post an part of rumour nwgrc prevented a dog from having a swab. box1 writes 200% correct chub no rumour mate its facts . well if this is fact there should be federal police investergation in to nsw racing offocials..from the top to the bottom. and sacking should be on the agenda.

its not in nsw cheyenne its in tasmania
which doesnt surprise me one little bit the sooner they get a NEW CHIEF STEWARD the better there wasnt this much trouble with the last two chief stewards
so who employs these latest stuff up stewards god do some good for the whole greyhound industry and employ someone who can do the right thing jesus is it that hard ?.

Greys4eva 08-06-2010 10:02 PM

What happened to Amanda Hill?? She was a very good steward when she was in Victoria always tough but one of the fairest, was a shame to lose her. Rumours ran rife over here about her but I doubt she was doing anything they said..... she was not that kind of person!

Paul Bullock 08-06-2010 10:13 PM

All interesting comments.Did a greyhound pass away in the kennel block at Devonport a couple of weeks ago .Was mentioned in stewards report I think.Does rule say an autopsy should be performed?I have been waiting for the results. to be published.PLB

chub 08-06-2010 10:44 PM

well paul its apparently at the discretion of stewards but i would have thought a dog dying after racing even if it looked as though it was a heart attack
( thats what the on course vet said )it would have given the owner,trainer and racing people an answer and stopped rumours circulating about it cheers chub.

penny 08-06-2010 11:30 PM

well here in victoria they wouldnt have hesitated to do an autopsy to allay any fears anyone had and to show they had INTEGRITY something it appears TASMANIAN STEWARDS are severley lacking in.

Top Dog 08-07-2010 12:32 AM

RACE 10 – HANKOOK TYRES GRADE 5- 452 METRES
Elusive Lomar was slow out. Royal Debree checked off the heels of Power Broker approaching the home turn. Dilston Dubai severely
checked off the heels of Royal Debree on the home turn. A post race veterinary examination of Dr. Ralf revealed that no apparent injury
could be detected. A post race veterinary examination of Dilston Dubai revealed that the greyhound was injured with a spike wound to
its right wrist and mild thumps and has been stood down from racing for a period of 2 days at all tracks. Stewards issued a warning on the racing manners of Dr. Ralf over the concluding stages of the event for the manner in which it tired.


LMFAO "the manner in which it tired" !!!!!! it didnt tire in an appropriate manner???

Top Dog 08-07-2010 02:01 AM

and another........


Reg’s Big Girl, Pearl’s Snow and Rebel Patch bumped soon after the start. Reg’s Big Girl crossed to the rails approaching the first turn and galloped on the heels of Hero Hunter, severely checking Hero Hunter which faltered As a result Beijing Bond, All Shot, Strong Magic and Pearl’s Snow were checked. Rebel Patch raced wide in the home straight. Hero Hunter was examined by the club’s Veterinary Surgeon and it was reported that this greyhound had right shoulder muscle soreness and the greyhound has been stood down from racing for a period of 10 days. Stewards found Hero Hunter guilty under GAR 69(5) for failing to pursue the lure with due commitment by reason of injury, in that Hero Hunter pulled up in the home straight. Hero Hunter must complete a Steward’s satisfactory trial before any future nominations will be accepted.
RUN ON: 1 4 7 6 5 3 8 2 by my calculations 8 dogs finished the race!!!! So did it pull up or tail off ????
MARGINS: ˝ HD x 2
TIME: 26.62

Top Dog 08-07-2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greys4eva (Post 17778)
What happened to Amanda Hill?? She was a very good steward when she was in Victoria always tough but one of the fairest, was a shame to lose her. Rumours ran rife over here about her but I doubt she was doing anything they said..... she was not that kind of person!

Tasmanian is the only state which put their Stewards on a five year contract and it is supposed to be a step in "integrity" in the employment of Stewards it also gives the department the ability to remove people from their positions without facing any legal issues. The major downside to this is it limits the applicants for positions as there are no guarantees that you will be employed in 5 years time.

Amanda's contract expired in January 2010 and there was no offer for it to be renewed, however, the option was there for her to reapply for the position. The interesting thing is other Stewards were offererd a further 5 years including the Steward who is acting in the position!

:rolleyes:

cheyenne 08-07-2010 09:08 AM

sorry penny i got the wrong state so at the nwgrc there was alledge that there was white power that stop a swab from been taken isnt that a security breech or a form of race fixing.

Box 1 08-07-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Bullock (Post 17779)
All interesting comments.Did a greyhound pass away in the kennel block at Devonport a couple of weeks ago .Was mentioned in stewards report I think.Does rule say an autopsy should be performed?I have been waiting for the results. to be published.PLB


when something along similar lines happened like this last time(Scrub O'mally died after crossin the finish line at Launceston)there was a autopsy done straight away,and correct me if i'm wrong i'm pretty sure Amanda Hill Directed this to be taken.....!!!:D

Top Dog 08-07-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Box 1 (Post 17790)
when something along similar lines happened like this last time(Scrub O'mally died after crossin the finish line at Launceston)there was a autopsy done straight away,and correct me if i'm wrong i'm pretty sure Amanda Hill Directed this to be taken.....!!!:D

CORRECT!!!!........


RACE 7 – Shaw Contracting Illingworth Classic – Heat 5 515M
Scrub O’Malley was very slow out. Fisherman, Hotline Patch and Regent Diamond collided soon after the start. Blofeld checked off
the heels of Sting approaching the first turn. Fisherman, Hotline Patch and Hilton Sage collided on the first turn. Fisherman and Hilton
Sage collided approaching the second turn checking both greyhounds. Fisherman, Hotline Patch, Hilton Sage and Scrub O’Malley
collided on the home turn checking Hotline Patch and Hilton Sage. Scrub O’Malley collapsed approaching the catching pen and died.
The Club’s Veterinary Surgeon, Dr Stephen King reported that the he was of the opinion that Scrub O’Malley had suffered from a
pulmonary rupture, Dr King performed an autopsy on course and collected various samples from the greyhound for further analysis.
Stewards interviewed Mr M Stringer to establish if there had been any unusual incidents or circumstances that may assist the stewards
with their investigation in this matter.


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