Sorry Westtiger and other members for sending two consecutive messages on the same matter but I just looked at the breeding of the stud dog Where's Pedro, a dog that has been getting big 'rapts' recently from various members. On looking at the GRV site, specifically the E-dog form and drilling down on the breeding of Where's Pedro, I can see that there are fairly strong links between his breeding the breeding of Lucky Penna. For example, Paris Match appears in both as do New Tears and Brother Fox. In fact, I think Brother Fox may appear 3 times as he is the sire of Paris Match and is also the sire of Gun Law Osti who is the sire of Brett Lee. There is also a strong link throughout the breeding to the very successful Ted Doss (Cootamundra) breed. You and other members may very shy away from such links but other members would know much better than me.