nick i would have loved to keep my race dog unfortunately he would have finished up killing the pup was very mean when it came to his own space not a savage dog but but mean made sure he went to good home the 8x3 i was talking about is only while im at work when home he is out walking and in his run thats not real big 20mtrs runs up and down about 15 times each session but your right he needs to run with other dogs been told if kept alone too long is recipe for a dog to fight in races may have found farm in yass nsw hope so but if this fails will have to work it out for myself and i will drive every one mad with Q and answers am retiring in june to solely train greyhound cant give time he deserves while working full time been smitten by greyhounds absolutely adore the animals thanks to all and as arnold said ill be back regards billy bones