well gippy the story with green dream is " if you give the dog/s a certain amount it builds up their confidence and they dont worry about bumps etc they will go through the proverbial brick wall "
seems strange that when caught the excuse is its in the meat WAFJ and until as you said the ptb start banning them
they are no better than the cheats who administer all sorts of drugs and shit to get the upper hand and stakemoney off mainly honest people who care about their dog/s.