Getting back to madfils question ......... i think madfil now has a pretty good cross section of opinons on Nightingale Thoroughbreds ....... I am very happy with my selection of horse (Sirrah Nashira has excellant old school breeding with plenty of bold black type) I am happy with the training setup, as well as the feedback (I do correspond with Alan) ........ there are monthly open days for owners ......... however as you will have read some feel they dont get enough regular updates ....... I firmly believe Alan Nightingale offers soundly bred horses at a very affordable fee structure allowing a lot of people the trills, spills and vet bills of horse racing .............COACH