To coops and gippy. As i said to lilyflowerandroxy i am new to this and rely on others for info the dog run qualies at richmond the next week heats where washed out and could not get a trial so 14 days on the lead another trainer advised on iron and b12 to pick him up i should have known better gut told me not to as he has all those in a food supp every night thanks to all for reply i do need advise and now i have this site know where to go in future thanks . Billybones.