Also WHIPPEE i get my meat, lean race beef for $2.50kg, you can get it cheaper for bulk and can get free fat from the butcher if he's nice like mine and can just add a little chopped up finely to the beef, better than crappy puppy mince for your pup! so it can be cheaper idea? so basically 2 pups get a kilo between them a day (plus kibbles and breaky) so $2.50 feeding 2 dogs a day cheaper than CHUM what i have been led to believe is cheaper kibble like supercoat more supps better kibble like ADVANCE hardly any supps so as LILY said in her post it all virtually works out the same in the long run after doing some maths which drained the brain lol BUT it all comes back to the wallet and wat we can afford i reckon. been told over n over by diff people supercoats just fine so ? IF IM WRONG ANY WHERE ANYONE SPEAK UP IM HERE TO LEARN TOO!!!!