Rollk, sounds like you might be a "senior" like me. Good to have some company. By Temlee ay, that was a while ago but I am thinking you might go back a lot further, not sure. I was thinking of going sort of semi-pro at one time (work for trainer and have my own small team of dogs) in the early 70s. Thank heavens I did not, I would have gone broke fast in that I couldn't train a pig to be dirty.